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proceed no. >> ellen book tv the rise of bashar al assad in it syria, the face that many in the weight -- west said that he would implement reforms and the syrian ruler is the group turned toward repression and violence. this is just under an hour. >> tonight we have a program with david lashed. a professor of middle eastern studies and history at the senate study of a texas. and david has been going to syria i believe 23 years. >> 1989. twenty-three years ago. >> started three years. some experience in that country. the reason i am excited to have and talk to us tonight. david got to know bashar al assad having spent a lot of time talking to him, which is pretty unique for an american command academic a particular. david broder a book in 2005 which held out great hope for the future of syria. if you recall, there were is some sense that he would be a reformer in the syria after his father died. discovered that is not the case, and he has no written another book called the fall of the house of assad. so we're going to talk a bit about that tonight. my first question is going to be quit
called bashar assad a reformer when he was turning his russian-provided guns on his own people. we should always stand up for peace, for democracy, for individual rights. and we should not be imposing these devastating defense cuts because what that does when we equivocate on our values, it makes us more weak. it projects weakness, and when we look weak, our adversaries are much more willing to test us, and our allies -- biden: with all due respect, that's a bunch of malarkey. >> moderator: and why is that so? biden: not a single thing he said was accurate. >> moderator: be specific. biden: i will be very specific. number one, this lecture on embassy security, the congressman here cut security by $300 million below what we asked for, number one. so much for the embassy security piece. number two, governor romney -- before he knew the facts, before he even knew that our ambassador was killed, he was out making a political statement which was panned by the media around the world. and this talk about this weakness, i don't understand what my friend's talking about here. we -- this is a presi
. thank you. >> assad. >> you know, i don't ever want them to look back at me and say, oh, you made me do this, i don't want the guilt on my hands is something that happens to them. saying hey, i push you into this. i will give them the fact that they need to know so they can make their own decisions. that is all we can do. you can never make anyone's mind up for them. if you don't go to college, i do recommend going into the military. and i'm going to say the marines, of course, because i'm biased. [laughter] >> yes, ma'am? >> no, i don't. she said i'm not wearing my mail today. do i ever were? no, i do not. the only time i where it is when i am required to. it's not what i'm about. i am foremost a marine. i'm an american. that is why i wear american flag cufflinks. i will let you know that any man or woman serving, all of these marines, they should be wearing a metal. it is just as much their mettle as it is mine. if you have ever been in situation to receive a the medal of honor, raise your hand. >> [inaudible question] >> yes, sir. >> [inaudible question] i don't go out and speak all
we are working very hard with the rebel forces, and clearly as the president said, assad's days are over and they will eventually come to enhance. and so we need to be ready to support those, provide as much support to those forces as we can in the interim. i do want, if i can, just say one thing about dov's comments about iran, which is also very related to the syria issue. and he does step up the strawman about the sanctions on iran, and the 20 countries that have gotten off the hook. i think it is interesting to note that this is where the facts really do matter, that iran sanctions is a critical piece of legislation that the congress passed in the '90s to punish iran and for those who support the petroleum sector. zero companies were sanctioned by the bush administration under the iran sanctions act, in eight years, zero. when president came to office to me very aggressively moved on sanctions using existing treasury department authorities. he then worked with the congress almost immediately to sign a new comprehensive piece of legislation, of which multiple companies across
and it is distinctions that give us the complexity we need to understand the world and assad ran a brutal dictatorship but nothing like saddam hussein. i had my passport taken by the iraqi authorities when i was in iraq -- i was very nervous obviously. i only got back to the airport before i left. i was a journalist who got too close to my story and i was intent on eliminating saddam hussein. i believed like the lot of people, different western countries in the world and on both sides of the aisle that there were wm ds and i believe a regime this suffocatingly brutal you couldn't trust. you had to assume that it existed and the work turned out so miserably. had we had different generals and different strategy could have been different. you can't simply say it wouldn't have mattered no matter what we did but on the other hand a lot of the mistakes we made were implicit in the hubris of the conception because we can play counterfact wills all we want but at the end of the day you are stuck with the fact you have and you have to live with them and deal with them. >> you add up the costs. almost 5,000 ame
own people. in theory, the assad regime reaches brutal war against its own people, even its territory slips from his grasp. i recently announced major new contributions of humanitarian aid and assistance for the civilian opposition. and we remain committed with their like-minded partners to increase pressure on the regime. and in yemen, where we supported negotiations that eventually achieved a peaceful trend vision, we are working to prevent al qaeda and other extremist from threatening these emerging, fragile, democratic institutions. and prevent them also from finding a safe haven for which to stage new attacks. and when i met with king abdullah of jordan last month, we discussed continuing reforms to move his country towards more democracy and prosperity. so when all of these places and many others, the united states is helping the people of those nations chart their own destinies and realize the full measure of their own human dignity. dignity is a word that means many things to different people and cultures, but it does speak to something universal in all of us. as one egyptian
outcome, so we are working very hard with the rebel forces and clearly as the president said, assad's days are over and they will eventually come to an end so we need to be ready to support those, provide as much support to the moderate forces as they can in the interim. i do want to, if i can, just say one thing about dov's comments about iran which are related to this issue. he does set up a strawman about the sanctions on iran and the 20 countries that have gotten off the hook. i think it's interesting to note that it does really matter. they ain't iran sanctions as a critical piece of legislation in the '90s to punish iran and for those who supported sip put petroleum. zero companies for sanctions under the iran sanctions act, zero. when the president came to office he very aggressively moved on sanctions to the existing authorities and he then worked with the congress almost immediately to sign a new comprehensive piece of legislation, of which multiple companies across the world including chinese companies and russian companies had sanctions. the 20 exemptions that dov likes to talk
and libya and later on probably when assad falls in syria, the whole discussion is going to be within the all-encompassing islamist family. and the people i supported, you know, democrats with small d, the reformers, the progressives, the secularists are going to be watching with frustration. they did a lousy job in the elections in egypt and other places because like i remember in my youth in 1968, we were happy with the student movements in spain and in paris and this and that, you know? we had long hair, and we ruse used to drink and think about the future and demonstrate in the streets, and that's changed. in egypt i love them, they're like my kids. they demonstrated, they didn't do retail politics. they didn't know what organization means. they didn't understand, you know, that politics is coalition. so now the islamists are at the helm. i'll say this, and my last point. what happened recently after that video and the reaction in egypt and benghazi -- benghazi's an act of terror, we know that, but let's talk about egypt. demonstrations in the rest of the arab world and the muslim
the supporters of al-assad and they see their backs to the wall and they have to fight to the death or they're going to get killed in other ways? is there any way out of the? >> that's a big problem. basically the regime is just beating the alawite's most horrible stories about the sunnis and what they want to do to them. these people really have their back against the wall and need to be smarter. it's just a doomsday scenario for them. the other minorities, you know, you're talking about christians. many christian groups -- [inaudible] off the top of my head i think it's a alawite% to 12%. it's not a small population. it's pretty big. it's not cohesive because you talk about pre-course. you're talking about searing christians, small numbers of protestants and what not, historians. so these groups support the regime. behrmann burrs are part of the security services. since they are all so scared time. >> this has been a really deep, well reported and he also took a lot of risks to gather this information, so we're very grateful you came and spoke about it. >> the original presented the risk
, the 13% alawite population that affiliates itself with the assad regime. what do you them will happen to them? do you think it can be foreseen if we decide to intervene in this changing government? >> thank you. and can you just send the mic. there we go. >> yes. . >> please identify yourself. [inaudible] from the american university of bay root. i want to ask -- [inaudible] that the 75% of what is -- [inaudible] the islamist party is not because islamic party because in egypt for 17 years not political parties. so the islamic party became more political. [inaudible] in to the system the political system. it's more political than islamic. and for hisham melhem mohammad -- what happened during the demonstration in egypt. he was in the -- [inaudible] visit to the european union in brussels and immediately said i'm against that -- [inaudible] but also we don't accept in cairo the frustration to attack the property, the diplomatic -- [inaudible] and i'm sorry against it . >>caller: pop. >> enact a law to stop the abuse of the free speech against other religions. >> okay. >> so a question
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